When Meng Qian proposed the new rules of technological globalization, not only enterprises in developing countries recognized it, but in fact, many enterprises in developed countries also recognized it in their hearts, and among these enterprises, there were some existences with special value.

Time went back to the day after Meng Qian finished the cloud computing security conference, Xiao Boshi invited Zeiss CEO Michael Hoffman to Gale Group, and had an in-depth communication with Meng Qian.

There are many reasons why Zeiss has been able to stand for more than 150 years, but there are two points that must be very important. The first is to protect the calf. It is not just the financial crisis in 2008. No matter what kind of difficulties it has always encountered, Zeiss has always insisted on As long as the company is still in the principle of no layoffs, of course, this does not include passive sabotage employees, which will definitely be fired.

If a project team within Zeiss goes bankrupt, Zeiss will arrange these employees to go to other departments, anyway, it will do everything possible to keep the employees.

The second is that Zeiss has long determined that large equity and decision-making power will always be in the hands of the company, ensuring that the company will never be invaded by other companies and capital.

The two points that Zeiss insists on are similar to those of Dafeng Group.

Moreover, Zeiss has always adhered to social responsibility and invests a lot of money in public welfare every year. Among them, the most focused thing of Zeiss Foundation is education, which fits well with Dafeng Group.

It is difficult to meet people with similar three views, and it is also difficult to meet companies with similar three views, so Meng Qian and Hoffman had a good chat as soon as they met.

The two talked about what the company can bring to employees, how to strengthen education, how to maintain the long-term prosperity of the company, how to better shoulder corporate responsibilities, and what a strong company means to a country. What to bring to a country.

Zeiss is a well-known patriotic company, but when Hoffman talked about this matter, he could see that he was very proud and had endless content. He did not shy away from being patriotic at all. Maybe he would not be scolded for being patriotic in Germany.

The two chatted from the morning to the afternoon, and finally it was Meng Qian who braked hard and took Hoffman to the National Laboratory.

Fortunately, Hoffman still remembers the main work of today, inspecting the lithography machine research and development capabilities of Dafeng Group, the most important of which is to look at the light source. Cymer successfully developed the EUV light source in 2009 with a power of 100 watts, which was an important historical node in the development of EUV lithography machines in the past.

But now, Harbin Institute of Technology has produced a 150-watt light source, and the situation has changed.

Hoffman led the technicians to carefully understand the light source of Harbin Institute of Technology, and the result was naturally no problem.

"As long as the power can be increased to 200 watts, it should be enough in theory." After Hoffman and his team confirmed the level of the light source here, Meng Qian went straight to the point.

This theoretical value is also recognized by Zeiss here, and now the power of Harbin Institute of Technology is 150 watts, and the power of Cymer is 1 million. At least on the surface, it seems that Harbin Institute of Technology has a higher probability of conquering 200 watts of power in advance.

Moreover, ASML has not yet acquired Cymer. Cymer is not so focused on the research and development of light sources for EUV lithography machines. They still have many other projects to do. On the other hand, Harbin Institute of Technology has left all the experts in this field in the national laboratory. Mou Pushed hard enough to increase the power to 200 watts.

After knowing the situation of the light source, Meng Qian took Huffman and his team to see the development of the camera. This time it was Changguang's turn to act.

Huffman first learned about the history and achievements of the Changguang Institute, and then glanced at the latest lens research and development of the Changguang Institute. A researcher said before that the outbreak of Huaxia Optical Technology is only a matter of time."

Seeing that Huffman recognized the technology, Meng Qian led a group of people to learn more about the development details of the lithography machine. It happened that Wang Baosen was still there, and by the way, he helped Meng Qian let Huffman feel the strength of Huaxia grinder.

After watching everything that should be seen, Meng Qian took Huffman to dinner, "The cooperation between Zeiss and ASML has been going on for some time, I don't know if Mr. Huffman is convenient to talk about our problems."

Huffman responded with a sincere face, "To be honest with Mr. Meng, the level of research and development of China's lithography machine that I saw today is beyond my expectations. I must admit that we have a certain cognitive bias towards China's technological level over the years. .”

"What does Mr. Huffman think of our current technological level in the international arena."

"Only from the lithography machine project, this is the top international level."

Seeing that Huffman was not being polite, Meng Qian simply followed up, "Then if we invite Zeiss to cooperate with us, I don't know if Mr. Huffman has the will."

Huffman was silent.

Meng Qian continued to approach, "Mr. Huffman, I will say something straight. First of all, Zeiss cooperates with ASML, and the only thing they can get is money, because ASML does not have the experience and team to develop lenses, but if Zeiss If we cooperate with us, we can not only provide sufficient funds, but we also have a team that can develop together with Zeiss.

Secondly, ASML has been lagging behind us since the immersion lithography machine, and now their light sources are also lagging behind. The only advantage is just a little trouble caused by the material ban. And Mr. Huffman has seen our overall level today. You must have the answer to whether we really want to cooperate or have to cooperate.

And the most important point is that we will not use any monopoly treaty to restrict Zeiss. If ASML wants to purchase the lens after it is developed, Zeiss will sell it as it wants. We will not intervene, and we should not intervene.

The purpose of the cooperation, as I have said over and over again, is to promote the development of products and the development of technology. Once the EUV lithography machine is successfully developed, the semiconductor process can take another big step forward. Development plays a key role. If the development of science and technology is delayed because of vicious competition, I really think it is ridiculous. "

Huffman's heart is very shaken, because the product development progress of Dafeng Group is indeed better than that of ASML, and the similarity of the three views makes Huffman like Meng Qian's win-win thinking mode. Under the circumstances, ASML asked Intel to help some companies to ban the sale of materials, which seemed very embarrassing.

In addition, he really saw the level here today. Even if Zeiss does not cooperate, Huaxia can make the lens by itself. Just like Meng Qian said, he is just to promote technological development faster. If it is purely for competition, ha Fuman thinks he does not need to find Zeiss cooperation.

Fortunately, after all, Zeiss is a German company rather than a US company. He can have his own ideas and does not need to work for the US. Huffman's inner balance began to tilt.

However, Zeiss also has concerns, "Mr. Meng, we are jointly operating with ASML in the research and development of lithography machine lenses. We need to respect ASML in this matter."

The lithography machine lens subsidiary established by Zeiss, ASML is the major shareholder.

"To be honest, if it weren't for Asmer's obvious monopoly, I would be very willing to cooperate with Asmer. If Mr. Huffman is convenient, he can help me bring my ideas to Asmer. We Dafeng Group really never want to monopolize anything, we just hope that the whole world can work together to make the product better.

If ASML is willing to accept our cooperation invitation, then nothing will be a problem. If ASML is unwilling to accept our cooperation invitation, if Zeiss does not mind, we would like to invite Zeiss to join us as a partner Projects, everyone focuses on their respective territories. "

"Mr. Meng's words, I will definitely bring them." Huffman looked at Meng Qian with respect in his eyes, but he also knew in his heart that if ASML was really just a Dutch company, he would probably agree to cooperate It's a pity that the current ASML is actually a US company, so Huffman subconsciously stated the real possible result, "No matter what ASML's attitude is, we are willing to cooperate with Dafeng Group."

In the next period of time, the two sides conducted frequent discussions on the details of cooperation, because companies that cooperate with ASML will be affected to some extent.

In the end, Zeiss decided to pull a new team out to cooperate with Dafeng Group, so that there would be no conflict with the lithography machine lens company.

And when the news reached Intel, it was like a bolt from the blue.

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